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  • Lehst3年前#22960257This is positively fascinating. I've seen some comparisons about scale before, and it always seems like a tricky an inconsistent thing. I can accept that when something from two different IP's or companies doesn't match up, but it really naws at me when two figures from the same show and company doesn't fit. This even applies to plush toys now that I think about it. Sanei Boeki plush of Detective Conan was a slowly released series and the latest ones don't quite match the oldest anymore.
    Anyways, what I really wanted to say was thank you for making this detailed post!

    Thank you for reading! Sometime I'd like to do a follow up, larger sample size study, as I have many more figures now from a somewhat larger assortment of manufacturers.
    3年前
    This is positively fascinating. I've seen some comparisons about scale before, and it always seems like a tricky an inconsistent thing. I can accept that when something from two different IP's or companies doesn't match up, but it really naws at me when two figures from the same show and company doesn't fit. This even applies to plush toys now that I think about it. Sanei Boeki plush of Detective Conan was a slowly released series and the latest ones don't quite match the oldest anymore.

    Anyways, what I really wanted to say was thank you for making this detailed post!
    3年前
    eekster5年前#3418860Oh, how I wish sculptors would base their scales on the character's height. Seeing that they are licensed toy/figure makers, you would think Japanese companies would ask the creators and the owners of an anime franchise about the specs of the character they are making a figure of. Never mind the 3 sizes - because we all know breast, waist and hip sizes are different on different anime shows - they should focus on the actual height because I wouldn't want Kobato from Boku wa Tomodachi be as tall as Mikasa from Attack on Titan when they are supposed to be of the same scale but not of the same height, obviously.
    The westerners mostly base it on a standard 6'0" and although that's probably ideal for efficiency and consistency, it doesn't give much authenticity to the character. Honestly, I hate scales other than 1/6 and 1/4. It's just too hard to find diorama decorations for the rest of the scales and it seems 1/8 is too small for me.

    Yes, it'd be nice if there was real attention paid to this stuff. The biggest revelation I had in the course of this study is that "scale" is one of the great lies of figure collecting! As it is, though, I think companies just go with what seems to look good most of the time. I have a lot of figures that fall into the 1/7 size so I can put them all together, can't speak for 1/4 as I don't have any. It is easier to find decorations for 1/6 since a lot of dolls are about that size, come to think of it.
    5年前
    Oh, how I wish sculptors would base their scales on the character's height. Seeing that they are licensed toy/figure makers, you would think Japanese companies would ask the creators and the owners of an anime franchise about the specs of the character they are making a figure of. Never mind the 3 sizes - because we all know breast, waist and hip sizes are different on different anime shows - they should focus on the actual height because I wouldn't want Kobato from Boku wa Tomodachi be as tall as Mikasa from Attack on Titan when they are supposed to be of the same scale but not of the same height, obviously.

    The westerners mostly base it on a standard 6'0" and although that's probably ideal for efficiency and consistency, it doesn't give much authenticity to the character. Honestly, I hate scales other than 1/6 and 1/4. It's just too hard to find diorama decorations for the rest of the scales and it seems 1/8 is too small for me.
    5年前
    yunomi5年前#2617959Never thought I'd read it all till the end (surprised myself). At the beginning, when you said,
    "I believe this has been brought up at least in part before, but I’d like to perform a more in-depth examination of figure scale."
    I thought, "So where's the shorter article for this topic?".
    But your writing is really exciting! It's a very good study for me. Thank you.

    Ah, I meant that other people had occasionally brought up the matter of scale. But I'd never seen anyone really go into it in detail. I'm very glad you enjoyed it! :>
    5年前
    Never thought I'd read it all till the end (surprised myself). At the beginning, when you said,
    "I believe this has been brought up at least in part before, but I’d like to perform a more in-depth examination of figure scale."
    I thought, "So where's the shorter article for this topic?".

    But your writing is really exciting! It's a very good study for me. Thank you.
    5年前
    catsack5年前#2468484I had flipped through my copy of Omnipresence and didn't see anything, but it's possible it was buried somewhere. 130cm seems low, but I can't imagine she's taller than Rei, so 130-140cm is probably a reasonable range.
    Your point still stands, 155cm just stood out to me as odd for someone who's supposed to be on the shorter side.

    Ok, so. I pored over Omnipresence, nothing. So I went back to searching the web and found 2 separate instances of her height, both giving it as 155 cm, but neither were reliable sources. Searching the Japanese web, I also found nothing. Therefore I don't have any reason to believe that any canon height was ever given in the first place, since we lack a lot of other information about Lain already (we don't even know exactly how old she is.)

    The only way I can think of to really know her height would be to measure her against an object of known size. Since no other characters have listed heights either, my best guess at a good method would be to find a shot in the anime where she is holding a piece of RAM (as the size of RAM that's not for laptops is always the same, and I couldn't think of anything else that would always be the same size) and measure her against that.

    I did recently buy the other Lain book, Visual Experiments Lain, so if I do somehow happen to find anything in there I'll let you know.
    5年前
    Moro5年前#2465411I need to dig out "An Omnipresence in Wired" again to be sure but I think it was listed there in some of the random details.
    Since you brought it up, I'll do some additional calculations based on estimations of different heights to see about this. If I assume something shorter but not LUDICROUSLY short--let's say, below Rei's height, how about 140 cm--then the figure comes out to 1/8.97, which places her at a near perfect 1/9. So she's still a scale smaller than stated.
    To actually be anything reasonably close to 1/8 she'd need to have a canon height of no more than 130 cm, which isn't unreasonable, actually. I'll get back to you when I've retrieved the artbook to double-check or haven't found conclusive information either way. (In which case I'll simply conclude that I was wrong and give Vice the benefit of the doubt and assume her canon height is about 130 cm.)


    I had flipped through my copy of Omnipresence and didn't see anything, but it's possible it was buried somewhere. 130cm seems low, but I can't imagine she's taller than Rei, so 130-140cm is probably a reasonable range.
    Your point still stands, 155cm just stood out to me as odd for someone who's supposed to be on the shorter side.
    5年前
    Moro5年前#2467036The figure's given height is pretty generous since she's on tiptoe and I'm sure it also includes the base. So I'll give her a height of 16 cm. The character's canon height is 166 cm.
    That places the figure at 1/10.37, a slightly midrange 1/10. Even if I did use the figure's given height of 17 cm she would still be 1/9.76, getting close to 1/10 anyway.
    So yeah, there's absolutely no way that she's 1/8.


    ah ok, thanks for the info!
    5年前
    autumnlucks5年前#2467006I was curious if you can evaluate the Yuzuriha Inori 1/8 figure for me please :)
    ITEM #78618
    From what I've seen in videos, a lot of people expected her to be bigger, but she is pretty small. Does 1/8 fit that "small" category? Just wondering...
    Thank you and thanks for the informative article :)

    The figure's given height is pretty generous since she's on tiptoe and I'm sure it also includes the base. So I'll give her a height of 16 cm. The character's canon height is 166 cm.
    That places the figure at 1/10.37, a slightly midrange 1/10. Even if I did use the figure's given height of 17 cm she would still be 1/9.76, getting close to 1/10 anyway.
    So yeah, there's absolutely no way that she's 1/8.
    5年前
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